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from the Farmview Subdivision from meeting notes August 23rd 2005
Timothy Dunphy, Contract Vendee, and Steven Buso, Engineer for the applicant,
were present, along with Neil Wilson, Planner for the Planning Board, for the
public hearingfor the Farmview subdivision located on Field Road. Mr. Dunphy
said he was closing on the property in about two weeks.
Mr. Werner motioned to open the public hearing, Ms. Veitia seconded. All
aye. Motion carried 5-0. Mr. Dunphy said this property was previously
subdivided into a nine lot subdivision back in 1989. A subdivision map
was filed in 1991, the road was put in, and then the subdivision was abandoned
in 1995 and the lots were re-merged. He said his intention is to subdivide
this back into nine lots, basically maintaining the same lot lines
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He had to make some changes due to the wetland designation. He said he liked
the way the property was previously subdivided because it protects existing agriculture
and forested property, so they plan to make every effort to minimize disturbance
in laying out house sites. This property is currently used as a garlic
farm by the Nosonowitz family who were the original applicants, and they have
garlic in the ground right now. Mr. Dunphy will be leasing fields back
to the Nosonowitzs as we move along to keep the agricultural use going. One
of the prominent features of the property is that it slopes up significantly
to the west. There are three fields that are usedfor garlic and two ponds
that are man-made as part of the original subdivision. They are not proposing
any changes to the existing road. However, they would like to do the driveways
with more gravel so as not to significantly change the run off. They are
trying to put the houses in places that will encourage agriculture and minimize
disturbance, and Mr. Buso showed the proposed house locations. There are
three lots that are wooded but not with very mature trees. They are looking
at two types of houses. Mr. Dunphy is an
architect and he will design the houses. They would like to do authentic
colonial farm
house type designs in keeping with the character of the town. The three
houses on the wooded lots will be a little more rustic. The houses will
be between 4 and 5,000 square feet. The ponds and streams are all designated
as DEC wetlands so they are required to keep construction out of the wetlands
and the 100 foot buffer unless they get a DEC permit. At the time of the
original subdivision, there were only wetlands in two places.
As a result, the road is located in the buffer as well as a couple of the driveways. They
are trying to avoid putting in new driveways which would require shifting lot
lines. They will maintain the barn and will use one existing driveway. The
lots are in a five acre district with the smallest lot being 8 acres and the
largest, 17 acres. They received sketch plan approval contingent upon putting
a note on the plat that the lots will not be further subdivided.
Norene Coller, CAC chair, said she could not see the stream when she was looking
at the maps. It is a perennial stream which starts in Stanford. Mr.
Buso said it is indicated on the map, but is hidden by the DEC wetlands. It
is a solid line that runs down through the road. It is a Class B stream,
a tributary to the Little Wappingers Creek, that runs right behind there. It
is a year round stream. Mr. Buso said the contours shown on this map were
taken from the original subdivision plat. They are not as exact as we would
like so will be re-done and new boundary line surveys will be done. It
won’t look different but every two foot contour will be where it should
be. These contours are from USGS. The wetland buffers are clearly
marked. Ms. Coller said the water protection guidelines in this town recommends
that buffers should be marked during construction. Under town law, there
is a 100 foot buffer required for perennial and 100 year streams. Both
ponds are spring fed. Both are full now and the stream is running now. Mr.
Buso showed the location of the culverts which are shown on the map. He
said all wetlands are state certified and connected. They tried to stay
out of buffer as much as possible. Steve Marino from Tim Miller and Associates
did the wetland flagging and he has begun dialogue with the DEC as far as what
is required for any work within the 100 foot buffer.
He showed
the area of disturbance of the driveway which is a very small area comparedto
the total acreage. They are hoping to get a certified wetlands map
from the DEC so they can flag them in the field. Jack Cleary, Browns
Pond Road, said he sees a number of lots with extremely long driveways and
asked if the applicant has provided the contours for those driveways. He
said it becomes a question more so with theunderstanding that the contour
lines will be changed. Mr. Buso said everything is under 10% slope
or less. Michael Hargrove who lives across the street said this is
a great plan, beautiful, and he is glad to hear the farming will continue. His
only question is, is there any thinking on the part of the town to pave Field
Road at this point due to higher usage.
He said he would like to keep it a dirt road. Mr. Myers said the Planning
Board has not heard of any suggestions for paving. Barbara Seelbach, Town
Board Liaison, said she does not know of any plan the town has at this time to
do any work on Field Road. Mr. Buso said he has met with Mr. Tompkins,
the highway superintendent, and discussed Field Road and Mr. Tompkins said he
likes the dirt road and would actually like the that will be applied but will
keep discussing that with Mr. Setaro and Mr. Tompkins. Theapplicant prefers
Field Road to be dirt. Ms. Veitia added that Mr. Tompkins has said in the
past that he did not want to pave any of the dirt roads in the town.
Hearing
no further public comment, Ms. Ruzicka motioned to close the public
hearing. Mr. Werner seconded. All aye. Motion carried
5-0.
Mr. Buso has additional information to supply and needs to modify the EAF based
on the reviews by Mr. Wilson and Mr. Setaro. They have retained Erik
Kiviat from Hudsonia for the habitat assessment which should be done next month,
and they have work to do with the DEC. The escrow is in good standing. Mr.
Wilson said he will wait to see what comes next and will look at the updated
EAF. There was no action taken at this meeting.
The board has previously decided that cluster is not the way to go.
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